• xiweiqing 2018-03-11

  云里霧里，不知所云，你要翻譯也不能這么翻譯吧，誰會看啊

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• WAWI 2012-07-11

  兄弟，能解釋一下嗎？

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• 玉柴司機(jī) 2012-01-04

  連貫翻譯就好了，現(xiàn)在看不懂。。。。

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• 鐵甲-小帥 2012-01-04

  不是什么好貼?？床欢＠速M(fèi)時(shí)間。

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• 1097466697 2012-01-03

  我很驚訝地看到這個(gè)話題，如果這是由于我在過去幾天公布的線程。 I would say you have misunderstood my incentive.我會說你誤解了我的的激勵(lì)。 
  
  I didn't expose more information about my work before, since you doubt about this, I would like to open: I am not a sales man of China branded manufacture, I am a sales trainee working in Caterpillar Global Petroleum department (selling engine and generator to oil & gas industry) 2 years after graduate from college.我沒有公開對我的工作的更多信息，因?yàn)槟鷮@個(gè)疑問，我想打開：我不是一個(gè)中國品牌的制造銷售的人，我銷售卡特彼勒全球石油部（銷售發(fā)動機(jī)的實(shí)習(xí)工作，發(fā)電機(jī)，以石油和天然氣行業(yè)）從大學(xué)畢業(yè)后2年。 I became interested in Construction machine since 14 years old when I firstly saw the huge CAT truck in a mine site near my hometown and my brother worked in one of the CAT China dealers - Westrac ( you must know it) for 10 years.自14歲我成了施工機(jī)械感興趣時(shí)，我首先看到巨大的CAT車在我的家鄉(xiāng)和我的兄弟附近的礦場在一個(gè)中國的經(jīng)銷商貓工作 - 威斯特（你必須知道它）10年。 So I always try my best to know more about these fantastic machines.所以我總是盡我所能了解更多有關(guān)這些夢幻般的機(jī)器。 I have join this forum for 1 year and haven't post or participated any thread, then one day I saw the Iron horse's “Jonyang 230e Excavator”, I became a little bit excited because our forum members begin to use or begin to know about China branded machine, then I post a thread “Some basic information about Excavator in China” in the “Excavator” forum.我有參加本次論壇為1年，并沒有張貼或參加任何線程，然后有一天，我看到了鐵馬的“Jonyang 230E挖掘機(jī)”，我變得有點(diǎn)激動，因?yàn)槲覀兊恼搲蓡T開始使用或開始了解中國品牌機(jī)的話，我后一個(gè)線程“一些關(guān)于挖掘機(jī)的基本信息”中的“挖掘機(jī)”論壇在中國。 My purpose is to introduce some reality situation about excavator in China to other members without any advertise motivation for any brand.我的目的是介紹一下在中國的挖掘機(jī)，任何品牌廣告的動機(jī)沒有任何其他成員的一些現(xiàn)實(shí)情況。 As for the pictures of china branded machine, I thought our members all know the famous brand but maybe never see what china branded machine look like, so I pick some China branded machine on job site to share.至于中國品牌機(jī)的圖片，我想我們大家都知道的著名品牌，但也許永遠(yuǎn)也看不到什么中國品牌機(jī)的外觀一樣，所以我選擇了一些中國品牌機(jī)作業(yè)現(xiàn)場分享。 I am fully responsible for what I said before, if you still have other questions about my “advertisement thread” let's discuss further.我完全負(fù)責(zé)，我以前說過，如果你還有關(guān)于我的“廣告線程”，讓我們進(jìn)一步討論的其他問題。這值得懷疑，我evern打算購買一臺挖掘機(jī)，但我有一個(gè)反鏟挖土機(jī)，推土機(jī)和傾卸汽車。 All for my land and personal use.我的土地和個(gè)人使用。 That said, finding the best price for what will do the job for me was a big part in what I bought.這就是說，尋找最好的價(jià)格為什么會為我做的工作是在我買的很大一部分。 None of it is chinese, but that wasn't a reason not to buy it either.沒有它是中國人，但是這不是一個(gè)理由不買它。 If I came across a chinese dozer in my searches that I felt would do the job and I had the support to buy parts for it, I would have been very interested in it.如果我碰到中國推土機(jī)在我的搜索，我覺得會做的工作和我的支持，購買部分來的，我會很感興趣。 
  
  It wasn't too long ago that Japan was the country the put out cheap cars and equipment, or at least that's what people used to say in the early 70's.這不是很久以前，日本全國推出廉價(jià)車和設(shè)備，或至少這就是人們說，在70年代初的。 Then in the 80's korea took over at the cheaply built cars.然后在80年代的韓國廉價(jià)制造的汽車。 Now it's inda and china.現(xiàn)在它的INDA和中國。 Both have the ability to build better and build it cheaper, so as a consumer, it's very interesting to me to read about the various brands.雙方有能力來建立更好的建立更便宜，因此作為一個(gè)消費(fèi)者，它非常有趣，我閱讀有關(guān)的各種品牌。 
  
  Just imagine if that chinese excavator makes it here, opens up shop and sells the same sized equipment for $100,000 less then the competition!!!!試想一下，如果中國的挖掘機(jī)，開辟了店，售價(jià)為10萬美元，與同規(guī)格設(shè)備不足的競爭?。?！ Then add dealer support with parts on hand.然后添加與手頭上的部分經(jīng)銷商支持。 They will make a killing and the other brands will have to seriously rethink their prices, which are way too expensive anyway.他們會屠殺和其他品牌將不得不認(rèn)真重新思考他們的價(jià)格，這實(shí)在是太昂貴反正。 
  
  It's just a matter of time until china and india get thier stuff together and improve on quality.這只是一個(gè)時(shí)間的問題，直到中國和印度得到他們的東西在一起，提高質(zhì)量。 Japan and Korea did it, so it's not impossible.日本和韓國沒有，所以這不是不可能的。 Then it will be some other country or region of the world.然后，這將是世界其他一些國家或地區(qū)。 Africa?非洲？ South America?南美？ both have the resource to do this if they can get their coruption under control and take advantage of their labor pool.都做到這一點(diǎn)的資源，如果他們能得到他們所控制的coruption，充分利用他們的勞動池。 
  
  Eddie埃迪  來自得克薩斯州，我肯定會想念得克薩斯州的東松樹和土地景觀肯定漂亮，但回正題，在手。 Many of the known reliable manufactures have out priced themselves and they are partly foreign made with parts sent worldwide for assembly.許多已知的可靠的生產(chǎn)價(jià)格紛紛走出自己和部分外國送往大會全球部分。 Yet a unit from China or India might be as good in many areas and not so in others.然而，從中國或印度的單位可能會在許多領(lǐng)域和在其他國家并非如此。 But if the product support was good and the machine up making money I could see and I too might consider a foreign brand.但如果產(chǎn)品支持好了賺錢機(jī)器，我可以看到，我也可以考慮國外品牌。 In the US or where I live now your equipment on site tells about your ethic of work.在美國，我現(xiàn)在的生活，您的現(xiàn)場設(shè)備告訴你的工作熱情。 So hang your company name on equipment and not some rental company is what I'm referring too.因此，設(shè)備掛在您的公司名稱，而不是一些出租公司就是我指太。 So it is easier to get caught up in names to keep business.所以很容易陷入名稱中保持業(yè)務(wù)。 It may be shallow logic but it has worked for a long time.這可能是淺層的邏輯，但它有很長一段時(shí)間的工作。 
  I ran a 444E for a while and we bent the bucket removing a stump one day.我跑了，而444E和彎曲桶中取出一個(gè)樹樁有一天。 My boss said had we had a CAT this would of never happened.我的老板說了，我們有一個(gè)會從來沒有發(fā)生過的貓。 Choice of metals was the cause for the failure of the bucket.金屬的選擇是斗失敗的原因。 The deere imo had better creature comforts than the CAT and it was less work to operate.迪爾海事組織更好的物質(zhì)享受，比“禁止酷刑公約”和它的工作越少，操作。 but the CAT had some motor with down deep torque.但貓有一些深長扭矩電機(jī)。 
  These days somethings aren't what they seem an we have to go out and put ourselves out in the middle and find what works for us best.這些天出頭，他們似乎是一個(gè)我們必須走出去，把自己在中間，并找到為我們工作的最好。 That is not just for equipment but for everything we by as a consumer.這僅僅是我們所有的設(shè)備，但不被作為一個(gè)消費(fèi)者。 埃迪 - 沃克說，上面是相當(dāng)多，我在想什么。 
  
  I too am old enough to remember when the label "made in Japan" was a synonym for "junk".我也是老得足以記得當(dāng)“日本制造”的標(biāo)簽是“**”的代名詞。 These days the debate is not whether Japanese goods are junk or not, but whether they're that much better than everybody else's or not.這些天的辯論是不是日貨是否是**或沒有，但是否他們的，遠(yuǎn)高于其他人的或不。 I think consumers have voted that they are in a lot of cases.我覺得消費(fèi)者都投了贊成票，他們在很多情況下是。 
  
  The point hitch made in the other thread about Chinese goods in the 10 or more years ahead of us is spot on as well.點(diǎn)順利在其他線程對中國商品的擺在我們面前的是在10年或以上，以及現(xiàn)貨。 
  
  As for Aussie Nick's points, there may be some truth to them, but they need to be considered in a global sense.至于澳元尼克的點(diǎn)，有可能是一些其中的道理，但他們需要在一個(gè)全球性的的意義上考慮。 
  
  People never seem to grasp that the world today is different than it was fifty years ago.人們似乎從來沒有把握，當(dāng)今世界是不同的，比50年前。 Today, businesses, and their employees, are not just competing locally, but with everyone, everywhere, world wide.今天，企業(yè)和其員工，不只是競爭在本地，但與每個(gè)人，無處不在，世界各地。 I've long said that if they could figure out how to dig holes over there, pack them into 40 foot shipping containers and send them over here, we'd all be out of our jobs too.我早就說過，如果他們能搞清楚如何挖孔那邊，包入40英尺的集裝箱，并送他們在這里，我們就全部是我們的工作也。 
  
  We, in the industrialized nations, have long had a higher standard of living than those in the "developing nations".我們，在工業(yè)化國家，早已有一個(gè)更高的生活水平比在“發(fā)展中國家”。 That's given us the luxury of having factories that pollute minimally, workers that are well paid, as opposed to "slave wages", and clean, safe workplaces, as opposed to sweatshops.這給我們奢侈的微創(chuàng)污染的工廠，以及支付，而不是“奴隸工資”，干凈，安全的工作場所，如反對血汗工廠的工人。 Go back in time a hundred years, and you'd find all of that right here in America, and I suspect Europe and probably Australia too.回到百年時(shí)間，你會發(fā)現(xiàn)，在美國所有的權(quán)利在這里，我懷疑歐洲，并可能在澳大利亞太。 People put up with it, because it still gave them a higher standard of living than they had back on the farm.人們把它，因?yàn)樗匀唤o了他們一個(gè)更高的標(biāo)準(zhǔn)比他們在農(nóng)場的生活。 They were happy to have us export our sweatshops to them.他們很高興，我們出口我們的血汗工廠。 Why are we now surprised that theyre even happier to have our good jobs?為什么我們現(xiàn)在驚訝嗎更有更高興有良好的就業(yè)機(jī)會呢？ 
  
  People in the developing nations are doing the same thing now that our grandfathers did--putting up with it, because it still beats the hell out of life on the farms in that part of the world.在發(fā)展中國家的人在做同樣的事情，現(xiàn)在我們的祖父 - 把它，因?yàn)樗匀簧罟?jié)奏的地獄就在這世界的一部分的農(nóng)場。 Proudly spending today building the dilapidated housing of the 22nd century....今天自豪地消費(fèi)，建設(shè)22世紀(jì)的破舊房屋.... 
  
  
  Read the Forum Rules Here 在這里閱讀論壇規(guī)則 鐵馬。 
  What the hell does colour have to do with it.顏色有什么是地獄，用它做。 White man in Africa speaking.白人在非洲來講。 What next, refusing to buy a deere ADT 'coz its made in Africa by Africans?下一步，拒絕購買一個(gè)迪爾ADT'COZ其在非洲，由非洲人？ 
  
  I do agree with you on a few points, but refusing to buy an excavata 'coz its made in a certain country is not what us earthmover freaks are about.我同意你的幾個(gè)點(diǎn)，但拒絕購買一個(gè)excavata COZ在某一個(gè)國家是不是我們的推土機(jī)怪胎約。 We love equipment wherever it comes from.我們的愛來自所有的設(shè)備。 
  
  And since when is Australia concerned about pollution, its not like you signed anything official in Brazil or something drawn up by the UN.因?yàn)槭前拇罄麃啎r(shí)，有關(guān)污染問題，它不喜歡你簽署任何正式在巴西或由聯(lián)合國制定的東西。 
  
  And yes Eddie, we do have a large labour pool.是埃迪，我們有大量的勞動力資源。 我想，我的手小了，但已在一個(gè)社會里種族最小的一提的是狡猾的，我想我不應(yīng)該來了熾烈的全槍。 I also did not know that Aussie has signed the Kyoto protocol, what with slow deliveration of news about international standards and what not.我也沒有不知道，澳大利亞簽署了“京都議定書”，與有關(guān)國際標(biāo)準(zhǔn)的消息，什么不能慢deliveration什么。 Sorry.對不起。 
  
  Africa is a poor continent, with corrupt money grabbing governments that spend every last cent on war instead of electricity (cough, cough, look at Zim, not that we aren't far behind) to uplift the population out of poverty where they still rely heavily on burning wood and paraffin, coal to heat and cook for themselves.非洲是一個(gè)貧窮的大陸，與腐敗的錢，每一個(gè)最后一分錢花在戰(zhàn)爭上，而不是電（咳，咳，看在以星，并不是說我們也不甘落后）隆起貧困人口，他們?nèi)匀灰揽繐寠Z政府大量燃燒木材和石蠟，煤熱，并為自己做飯。 All though South Africa may not be doing much, we certainly are trying our damn best.南非所有雖然可能不是做多，當(dāng)然，我們正在嘗試我們的該死的最佳。 
  
  We may not use a lot of Chinese equipment, but we do use it.我們可能無法使用了大量中國制造的設(shè)備，但我們不使用它。 It is becoming quite popular.它變得很流行。

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• 1097466697 2012-01-03

  方面，澳元尼克 
  Hi Aussie Nick喜澳元尼克 
  
  I am very surprised to see this topic and if this is due to my thread posted in the past few days.我很驚訝地看到這個(gè)話題，如果這是由于我在過去幾天公布的線程。 I would say you have misunderstood my incentive.我會說你誤解了我的的激勵(lì)。 
  
  I didn't expose more information about my work before, since you doubt about this, I would like to open: I am not a sales man of China branded manufacture, I am a sales trainee working in Caterpillar Global Petroleum department (selling engine and generator to oil & gas industry) 2 years after graduate from college.我沒有公開對我的工作的更多信息，因?yàn)槟鷮@個(gè)疑問，我想打開：我不是一個(gè)中國品牌的制造銷售的人，我銷售卡特彼勒全球石油部（銷售發(fā)動機(jī)的實(shí)習(xí)工作，發(fā)電機(jī)，以石油和天然氣行業(yè)）從大學(xué)畢業(yè)后2年。 I became interested in Construction machine since 14 years old when I firstly saw the huge CAT truck in a mine site near my hometown and my brother worked in one of the CAT China dealers - Westrac ( you must know it) for 10 years.自14歲我成了施工機(jī)械感興趣時(shí)，我首先看到巨大的CAT車在我的家鄉(xiāng)和我的兄弟附近的礦場在一個(gè)中國的經(jīng)銷商貓工作 - 威斯特（你必須知道它）10年。 So I always try my best to know more about these fantastic machines.所以我總是盡我所能了解更多有關(guān)這些夢幻般的機(jī)器。 I have join this forum for 1 year and haven't post or participated any thread, then one day I saw the Iron horse's “Jonyang 230e Excavator”, I became a little bit excited because our forum members begin to use or begin to know about China branded machine, then I post a thread “Some basic information about Excavator in China” in the “Excavator” forum.我有參加本次論壇為1年，并沒有張貼或參加任何線程，然后有一天，我看到了鐵馬的“Jonyang 230E挖掘機(jī)”，我變得有點(diǎn)激動，因?yàn)槲覀兊恼搲蓡T開始使用或開始了解中國品牌機(jī)的話，我后一個(gè)線程“一些關(guān)于挖掘機(jī)的基本信息”中的“挖掘機(jī)”論壇在中國。 My purpose is to introduce some reality situation about excavator in China to other members without any advertise motivation for any brand.我的目的是介紹一下在中國的挖掘機(jī)，任何品牌廣告的動機(jī)沒有任何其他成員的一些現(xiàn)實(shí)情況。 As for the pictures of china branded machine, I thought our members all know the famous brand but maybe never see what china branded machine look like, so I pick some China branded machine on job site to share.至于中國品牌機(jī)的圖片，我想我們大家都知道的著名品牌，但也許永遠(yuǎn)也看不到什么中國品牌機(jī)的外觀一樣，所以我選擇了一些中國品牌機(jī)作業(yè)現(xiàn)場分享。 I am fully responsible for what I said before, if you still have other questions about my “advertisement thread” let's discuss further.我完全負(fù)責(zé)，我以前說過，如果你還有關(guān)于我的“廣告線程”，讓我們進(jìn)一步討論的其他問題。  .

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• 1097466697 2012-01-03

  澳大利亞人尼克， 
  B,C and D are my thoughts but you said them first. B，C和D是我的想法，但你說他們的第一。 I'm neither here nor there on the subject.關(guān)于這個(gè)問題，我不倫不類。 I've seen a few peddlers come and go here and it is just that.我見過幾個(gè)小販這里來來去去，就是這樣。 I'm not sure if this guy is just wanting to get ideas and become a regular poster or be a poser????我不知道如果這家伙只是想了解，并成為一項(xiàng)經(jīng)常性的海報(bào)或者是波塞爾？？ I'm a grain of salt about the whole idear.我一粒鹽對整個(gè)idear。 I don't run equipment any more but so desire to learn more since I'm in system engineering.我不運(yùn)行任何設(shè)備，但渴望了解更多，因?yàn)槲液芟到y(tǒng)工程。 My heart is into trucks and equipment and how they have evolved in the last 25 years is a huge success of the engineers who have developed this stuff.我的心臟是卡車和設(shè)備的工程師開發(fā)這個(gè)東西是一個(gè)巨大的成功，以及他們?nèi)绾卧谶^去25年來的演變。 
  Fair trade is a big deal down under isn't it?公平貿(mào)易是一個(gè)大問題，下下來是不是？ can't sweat shop the peps when everyone gets a piece of the pie.不能血汗工廠的政界人士，當(dāng)每個(gè)人都分一杯羹。 
  My biggest problem with China and India right now is the countries who have hired them for the use of cheap labor have exploited those counties and that is wrong.我與中國和印度最大的問題，現(xiàn)在已聘請他們?yōu)槭褂昧畠r(jià)勞動力的國家利用這些縣，這是錯(cuò)誤的。 But the leaders of those two countries are equal in blame for the money that they receive for this very exploitation.但是，這兩個(gè)國家的領(lǐng)導(dǎo)人都在怪的錢，他們收到這個(gè)剝削的平等。 I can't blame them but the pollution and lax safety is very unsatisfactory.我不能責(zé)怪他們，但污染和松懈的安全是非常不理想。

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